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kadirtopcu
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can't get any result!!

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I modeled a simple frame with braces, then I applied a lateral force. I want to get section local forces record but after running there was nothing on the braces.no moment, no axial load ..nothing?? what could be the reason of this problem?
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Re: can't get any result!!

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check the nodal displacements at the ends of the brace elements to make sure they are not 0.'s
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Re: can't get any result!!

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Without further details, I'd say you're trying to record something that's not being computed.
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Re: can't get any result!!

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the frame is like this. imagine a 5x5 2D frame:

node 1 0 0
node 2 0 5
node 3 5 5
node 4 5 0
node 5 2.5 5 (in the middle of 2 and 3)

element 1 1 2
element 2 2 3
element 3 4 3
element 4 1 5
element 5 4 5

element 4 and 5 are braces. after running the program there was nothing on the braces. no axial loads no momentswhat could be the reason.
and also if I define braces like this:
element 4 1 3
element 5 4 2

it works and I can get axial loads and moments on the braces...what is the difference???
I hope I can express it clearly..thanks
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Re: can't get any result!!

Post by TJC »

You are not getting any results because your braces are not connected to the top chord, you have two zero force members. Instead of one element from node 2 to 3, you should try an element from node 2 to 5, and node 5 to 3. If you do that your braces will no longer be zero force members.
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Re: can't get any result!!

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I did what you say, but it doesnt work.Do I miss something here? please help because I need to solve this problem..
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Re: can't get any result!!

Post by TJC »

Post your complete input script, without that it's difficult to solve your problem.
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Re: can't get any result!!

Post by kadirtopcu »

thank you TJC, I have done what you say again and it works now.
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