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salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> i do not understand you other question.
>
> truss is an element that can take axial load only. distributed load can be
> applied on elements that have some banding capacity (e.g., beam-column
> elements).

thank you for your reply, vesna
but now i'm confused. i draw a pic of eccentrically brace that attache to this text and show how to define element in EBF.
I want to read this pic and take your suggest about it?
is that crocct?

attache file is : http://www.mediafire.com/view/?gofcyorgfbd9k6r

i'll expect that hear your idea!
thanks alot
vesna
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Re: analyse error?

Post by vesna »

I never studied EBFs myself but I know that the middle portion of the beam (between braces) has predominantly shear deformation. Beam with hinges element can not capture shear deformation and is not sufficient. You will probably need to add a shear link (zeroLenght element) to capture shear deformations. Search for articles on modeling of EBFs. That may be helpful.
salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> I never studied EBFs myself but I know that the middle portion of the beam
> (between braces) has predominantly shear deformation. Beam with hinges
> element can not capture shear deformation and is not sufficient. You will
> probably need to add a shear link (zeroLenght element) to capture shear
> deformations. Search for articles on modeling of EBFs. That may be helpful.
Dear vesna
what's your idea about this script that writte in attache file? is that corroct?
i use it from this article:
1- Ramadan, T., and Ghobarah, A. (١٩٩٥), “Analytical model for shear-link behavior”. ASCE J. of Struct.
Eng ١٢١:١١, ١٥٧٤-١٥٨٠
2-Prinz, G.S.(٢٠١٠), “Using Buckling-Restrained Braces in Eccentric Configurations” Ph.D. dissertation,
Dept. of Structural Engineering, Univ. of Brigham Young

attache file is: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3q1n3extf1zy2qb

thank you
salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> i do not understand you other question.
>
> truss is an element that can take axial load only. distributed load can be
> applied on elements that have some banding capacity (e.g., beam-column
> elements).

Dear vesna
what's your idea about this script that writte in attache file? is that corroct?
i use it from this article:
1- Ramadan, T., and Ghobarah, A. (١٩٩٥), “Analytical model for shear-link behavior”. ASCE J. of Struct.
Eng ١٢١:١١, ١٥٧٤-١٥٨٠
2-Prinz, G.S.(٢٠١٠), “Using Buckling-Restrained Braces in Eccentric Configurations” Ph.D. dissertation,
Dept. of Structural Engineering, Univ. of Brigham Young

attache file is: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3q1n3extf1zy2qb

thank you
salimonafs
Posts: 20
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> i do not understand you other question.
>
> truss is an element that can take axial load only. distributed load can be
> applied on elements that have some banding capacity (e.g., beam-column
> elements).

hi vesna
i'm so glad to see your presentation (at http://opensees.berkeley.edu/wiki/index ... n_elements).
i just one question about your presentation.
Can i use this script for EBF Brace?
thanks alot
vesna
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Re: analyse error?

Post by vesna »

If you think that it can be of use for you go ahead and use it.
salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> To define orient vector you need to define $x1 $x2 $x3, that are vector
> components in global coordinates defining local x-axis (for 45 degrees this
> vector is 1 1 0) and $yp1 $yp2 $yp3 vector components in global coordinates
> defining vector yp which lies in the local x-y plane for the element (for
> 45 degrees this vector is -1 1 0). If you do not understand this you need
> to learn basics of linear algebra.


Hi,
when i run my tcl script(By transient Analsys and pushover Analsys) , show this Message!!!
Can anyone help me to solve the following problem?

Groundmotion start! ;Start Time: 0.000000
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 16.7144 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 0.0644552, Norm deltaR: 1374.93
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 12388.4 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 1.1113, Norm deltaR: 842219
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 115186 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 6.68996, Norm deltaR: 2.46129e+006
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 240.26 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 0.122377, Norm deltaR: 310764
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 16383.9 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 7.12647, Norm deltaR: 573030
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 6.6496e+007 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 1265.38, Norm deltaR: 2.56509e+007
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 6.69444e+008 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 5681.79, Norm deltaR: 1.78446e+008
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 2.53113e+009 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 110656, Norm deltaR: 9.71106e+007
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 1.28555e+010 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 311594, Norm deltaR: 3.90852e+007
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 3.24916e+008 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 6191.94, Norm deltaR: 1.28033e+008
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 1.1324e+009 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 30726.8, Norm deltaR: 3.87756e+007
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 3.12155e+008 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 3457.99, Norm deltaR: 5.13509e+007
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 5.70445e+006 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 82.8078, Norm deltaR: 1.62607e+007
WARNING: CTestEnergyIncr::test() - failed to converge but goin on - current Ener
gyIncr: 352866 (max: 1e-008)
Norm deltaX: 123.365, Norm deltaR: 1.55596e+006
Groundmotion done! ;End Time: 3.000000
selimgunay
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Re: analyse error?

Post by selimgunay »

You need to try adaptive solutions by changing nonlinear solvers, integration methods, convergence criteria, etc.
salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> To define orient vector you need to define $x1 $x2 $x3, that are vector
> components in global coordinates defining local x-axis (for 45 degrees this
> vector is 1 1 0) and $yp1 $yp2 $yp3 vector components in global coordinates
> defining vector yp which lies in the local x-y plane for the element (for
> 45 degrees this vector is -1 1 0). If you do not understand this you need
> to learn basics of linear algebra.

Hi, vesna
i creat script for N-Bay & N-story in TCLeditor(opensees).when i run this script for 5 Bay $ 24 Story, my model do'nt be run,
but when i select less than 24 story, this model run!!!
could you help me?!
I send my script to your researchgate's account messanger
salimonafs
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Location: nit

Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

selimgunay wrote:
> You need to try adaptive solutions by changing nonlinear solvers,
> integration methods, convergence criteria, etc.

Hi, selimgunay
i creat script for N-Bay & N-story in TCLeditor(opensees).when i run this script for 5 Bay $ 24 Story, my model do'nt be run,
but when i select less than 24 story, this model run!!!
could you help me?!
how can i send my script to you??
selimgunay
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Location: University of California, Berkeley

Re: analyse error?

Post by selimgunay »

Please post it here.
salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

selimgunay wrote:
> Please post it here.

Hi, selimgunay
thank's for your attention.
you can download my file from this link.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q2k8s0inn ... mModel.rar
salimonafs
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:26 am
Location: nit

Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

vesna wrote:
> i do not understand you other question.
>
> truss is an element that can take axial load only. distributed load can be
> applied on elements that have some banding capacity (e.g., beam-column
> elements).


Hi, vesna
i creat script for N-Bay & N-story in TCLeditor(opensees).when i run this script for 5 Bay $ 24 Story, my model do'nt be run,
but when i select less than 24 story, this model run!!!
could you help me?!
you can download my file from this link.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q2k8s0inn ... mModel.rar
salimonafs
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:26 am
Location: nit

Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

selimgunay wrote:
> Please post it here.

Hi, selimgunay
please help me!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/q2k8s0inn ... mModel.rar
salimonafs
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Re: analyse error?

Post by salimonafs »

salimonafs wrote:
> selimgunay wrote:
> > Please post it here.
>
> Hi, selimgunay
> thank's for your attention.
> you can download my file from this link.
> http://www.mediafire.com/file/q2k8s0inn ... mModel.rar


Hi, selimgunay
please help me!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/q2k8s0inn ... mModel.rar
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