lumped plasticity model & pushover
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lumped plasticity model & pushover
Hi, I bulit up 2D RC frame (6 story 6 bay) using hysteretic loop
the hysteretic loop's parameters were derived from fema 356 (chapter.6, table 6-7~ table 6-8)
And I want to compare a pushover curve of non retrifited model with a pushover curve of retrifited model
The analysis of non retrofited model was well.
But analysis of retrofited model failed. (I tried to analysis retrofited only one column among 42 columns.)
Difference between the two models is hysteretic loop's paremeters.
I think ... Stiffness and strength difference between hysteresis curve of non retrofied model and hysteresis curve of retrofied model is large
so I tried to changing paremeters of analysis command (constraints / system / algorithm)
but all failed..ㅠㅠ
I cannot post my script here but I can email it
please give me any reply... thank you
the hysteretic loop's parameters were derived from fema 356 (chapter.6, table 6-7~ table 6-8)
And I want to compare a pushover curve of non retrifited model with a pushover curve of retrifited model
The analysis of non retrofited model was well.
But analysis of retrofited model failed. (I tried to analysis retrofited only one column among 42 columns.)
Difference between the two models is hysteretic loop's paremeters.
I think ... Stiffness and strength difference between hysteresis curve of non retrofied model and hysteresis curve of retrofied model is large
so I tried to changing paremeters of analysis command (constraints / system / algorithm)
but all failed..ㅠㅠ
I cannot post my script here but I can email it
please give me any reply... thank you
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
thank you for your reply
below is the pushover analysis script
# displacement parameters
set IDctrlNode 17; # node where disp is read for disp control
set IDctrlDOF 1; # degree of freedom read for disp control (1 = x displacement)
set HBuilding 18000
set Dincr [expr 1]; # displacement increment
set Dmax [expr 3.000000e-02*$HBuilding]; # maximum displacement of pushover: 5 roof drift
set TestType NormDispIncr; # Convergence-test type
set algorithmType KrylovNewton
set maxNumIter 2000;
set Tol 1.000000e-05;
set printFlag 5;
# analysis commands
integrator DisplacementControl $IDctrlNode $IDctrlDOF $Dincr; # use displacement-controlled analysis
constraints Transformation # how it handles boundary conditions
system BandGeneral # how to store and solve the system of equations in the analysis (large model: try UmfPack)
algorithm KrylovNewton
numberer RCM # renumber dofs to minimize band-width (optimization)
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag; # tolerance, max iterations, printFlag
analysis Static # define type of analysis: static for pushover
set Nsteps [expr int($Dmax/$Dincr)]; # number of pushover analysis steps
set ok [analyze $Nsteps]; # this will return zero if no convergence problems were encountered
if {$ok != 0} { # if analysis fails, we try some other stuff, performance is slower inside this loop
puts "analysis fails... Start loop"
set ok 0;
set controlDisp 0.0;
set D0 0.0; # analysis starts from zero
set Dstep [expr ($controlDisp-$D0)/($Dmax-$D0)]
while {$Dstep < 1.0 && $ok == 0} {
set controlDisp [nodeDisp $IDctrlNode $IDctrlDOF ]
set Dstep [expr ($controlDisp-$D0)/($Dmax-$D0)]
set ok [analyze 1 ]
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.5...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .5;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.6...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .6;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.7...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .7;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.8...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .8;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying ModifiedNewton .."
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm ModifiedNewton
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying Newton with Initial Tangent tol 1.0e-4 .."
test NormDispIncr 1.000000e-04 10000 $printFlag
algorithm Newton -initial
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag;
};
}; # end while loop
}; # end if ok !0
puts "Pushover analysis completed!!!"
}
And the error massage is as follows
T1 = 1.2126680538986943 s
T2 = 0.41079807521771056 s
Model Built
Running Pushover...
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0332701 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 811949)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.639649 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 775.426)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.279977 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 970.659)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 24.5119 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.76659)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 14.8782 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 966.381)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0073189 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 51871.5)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0267467 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 204.405)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.187583 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 256.597)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.410903 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.1873e+006)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0432267 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.13184e+006)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00845821 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 403.856)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00894185 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 8.95462)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00454013 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 275.621)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.15519 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 217.67)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0273083 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 255.075)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.163919 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 96.1319)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0119286 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 53.3517)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 94.2465 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 542.735)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 1.80781 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.5172)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0408831 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 109.066)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.000291316 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 190.724)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 1.16511 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 56.1159)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.529071 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 0.880609)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00618671 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 289.808)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0249061 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.28128)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 9.77724e-005 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 3.33889)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 10.3719 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.15424)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00427068 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 98.2562)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00116474 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 63.7288)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 10.4495 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 77.0028)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.457557 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 882.05)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 5.3094 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 20.286)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0146711 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 35.1011)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0617741 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 67.8948)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.333704 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1121.84)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 2.9439 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 32.634)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00562185 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1614.12)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.300733 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 229.681)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0143914 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 364.815)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00135852 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 35.9349)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.275291 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 6.45087)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0144134 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 203.046)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.903039 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.15147)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0691308 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 5.10626)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0326314 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 32.3417)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 1.34885 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 143.151)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0238247 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 7.48727)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0590643 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 27.6088)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0311652 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 76.8412)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.459563 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 122.829)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.255394 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 3.64096)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00738626 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 252.612)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.022459 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 10.3148)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0683001 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 71.4894)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00015516 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 62.9689)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0129223 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 141.274)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 20.3268 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 41.8827)
Pushover analysis completed!!!
the analysis failed on degradation of strength (in that time, roof drift ratio is 1%)
I want to show some figure likes hysteretic loop and pushover curve of non retrofit verses retrofit
could someone give me email address?
when I changed the hystreretic loop paremeter (members have some strength after strength degradaiton)
the analysis was well
so, I think... the pushover failed in the middle, because of members having zero strength . am I right???
please give me some advise.
below is the pushover analysis script
# displacement parameters
set IDctrlNode 17; # node where disp is read for disp control
set IDctrlDOF 1; # degree of freedom read for disp control (1 = x displacement)
set HBuilding 18000
set Dincr [expr 1]; # displacement increment
set Dmax [expr 3.000000e-02*$HBuilding]; # maximum displacement of pushover: 5 roof drift
set TestType NormDispIncr; # Convergence-test type
set algorithmType KrylovNewton
set maxNumIter 2000;
set Tol 1.000000e-05;
set printFlag 5;
# analysis commands
integrator DisplacementControl $IDctrlNode $IDctrlDOF $Dincr; # use displacement-controlled analysis
constraints Transformation # how it handles boundary conditions
system BandGeneral # how to store and solve the system of equations in the analysis (large model: try UmfPack)
algorithm KrylovNewton
numberer RCM # renumber dofs to minimize band-width (optimization)
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag; # tolerance, max iterations, printFlag
analysis Static # define type of analysis: static for pushover
set Nsteps [expr int($Dmax/$Dincr)]; # number of pushover analysis steps
set ok [analyze $Nsteps]; # this will return zero if no convergence problems were encountered
if {$ok != 0} { # if analysis fails, we try some other stuff, performance is slower inside this loop
puts "analysis fails... Start loop"
set ok 0;
set controlDisp 0.0;
set D0 0.0; # analysis starts from zero
set Dstep [expr ($controlDisp-$D0)/($Dmax-$D0)]
while {$Dstep < 1.0 && $ok == 0} {
set controlDisp [nodeDisp $IDctrlNode $IDctrlDOF ]
set Dstep [expr ($controlDisp-$D0)/($Dmax-$D0)]
set ok [analyze 1 ]
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.5...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .5;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.6...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .6;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.7...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .7;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying NewtonLineSearch 0.8...";
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm NewtonLineSearch .8;
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying ModifiedNewton .."
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag
algorithm ModifiedNewton
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag;
};
if {$ok != 0} {
puts "Trying Newton with Initial Tangent tol 1.0e-4 .."
test NormDispIncr 1.000000e-04 10000 $printFlag
algorithm Newton -initial
set ok [analyze 1 ]
algorithm $algorithmType;
test NormDispIncr $Tol $maxNumIter $printFlag;
};
}; # end while loop
}; # end if ok !0
puts "Pushover analysis completed!!!"
}
And the error massage is as follows
T1 = 1.2126680538986943 s
T2 = 0.41079807521771056 s
Model Built
Running Pushover...
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0332701 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 811949)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.639649 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 775.426)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.279977 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 970.659)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 24.5119 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.76659)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 14.8782 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 966.381)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0073189 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 51871.5)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0267467 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 204.405)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.187583 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 256.597)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.410903 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.1873e+006)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0432267 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.13184e+006)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00845821 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 403.856)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00894185 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 8.95462)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00454013 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 275.621)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.15519 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 217.67)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0273083 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 255.075)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.163919 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 96.1319)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0119286 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 53.3517)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 94.2465 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 542.735)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 1.80781 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.5172)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0408831 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 109.066)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.000291316 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 190.724)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 1.16511 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 56.1159)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.529071 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 0.880609)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00618671 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 289.808)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0249061 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.28128)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 9.77724e-005 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 3.33889)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 10.3719 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.15424)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00427068 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 98.2562)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00116474 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 63.7288)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 10.4495 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 77.0028)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.457557 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 882.05)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 5.3094 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 20.286)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0146711 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 35.1011)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0617741 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 67.8948)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.333704 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1121.84)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 2.9439 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 32.634)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00562185 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1614.12)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.300733 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 229.681)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0143914 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 364.815)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00135852 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 35.9349)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.275291 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 6.45087)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0144134 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 203.046)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.903039 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 1.15147)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0691308 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 5.10626)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0326314 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 32.3417)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 1.34885 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 143.151)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0238247 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 7.48727)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0590643 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 27.6088)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0311652 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 76.8412)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.459563 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 122.829)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.255394 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 3.64096)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00738626 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 252.612)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.022459 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 10.3148)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0683001 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 71.4894)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.00015516 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 62.9689)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 0.0129223 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 141.274)
WARNING: CTestNormDispIncr::test() - failed to converge but going on - current Norm: 20.3268 (max: 1e-005, Norm deltaR: 41.8827)
Pushover analysis completed!!!
the analysis failed on degradation of strength (in that time, roof drift ratio is 1%)
I want to show some figure likes hysteretic loop and pushover curve of non retrofit verses retrofit
could someone give me email address?
when I changed the hystreretic loop paremeter (members have some strength after strength degradaiton)
the analysis was well
so, I think... the pushover failed in the middle, because of members having zero strength . am I right???
please give me some advise.
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
the analysis says " Pushover analysis completed!!!" at the bottom of analysis
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
hi Prafullamalla
the analysis said that.. but pushover curve was so strange and value of base shear was lower than not retrofited model.
pushover curve was similar to below
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the maximum value of (base shear / total weight) = not retrofited model 0.108 (10.8%) & retrofited model 0.057 (5.7%)
so, I think... the pushover failed in the middle
the analysis said that.. but pushover curve was so strange and value of base shear was lower than not retrofited model.
pushover curve was similar to below
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the maximum value of (base shear / total weight) = not retrofited model 0.108 (10.8%) & retrofited model 0.057 (5.7%)
so, I think... the pushover failed in the middle
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Dear Friend
Did your other algorithms, as mentioned in the pushover script above, give the same errors?
You can play with load increment DIncr.Or,
Sometime the material which are used in the model may be the problem for convergence problem, like if it has any sharp changes in its definition. In that case you can try any close alternate material with smooth transition curves.
Did your other algorithms, as mentioned in the pushover script above, give the same errors?
You can play with load increment DIncr.Or,
Sometime the material which are used in the model may be the problem for convergence problem, like if it has any sharp changes in its definition. In that case you can try any close alternate material with smooth transition curves.
Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Dear kesavapraba
the results of other algorithms likes newton, ModifiedNewton were worse (I got more and same error massages)
you said " In that case you can try any close alternate material with smooth transition curves."
but the hysteretic loop of members could not change because I followed the fema356 and guidelines for the retrofied buildings.
so, Is the meaning that opensees is not suitable for my model??
the results of other algorithms likes newton, ModifiedNewton were worse (I got more and same error massages)
you said " In that case you can try any close alternate material with smooth transition curves."
but the hysteretic loop of members could not change because I followed the fema356 and guidelines for the retrofied buildings.
so, Is the meaning that opensees is not suitable for my model??
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
The pushover analysis is complete. Once the material reaches nearly complete degradtion, it becomes like liquid, i.e, no strength at all. So, there is deflection for nearly zero load. Did , you use the concrete material. and it depends upon the minimum concrete in the descending portion and other parameters of concrete. You can also neglect the value of result once there is too steep descending
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Dear Sualim
I assume that the hysteretic loop that you mentioned means the backbone curve for the pushover curve. A hysteretic loop is required only during the cyclic analysis. The backbone curve in your case is multilinear, so there is a possibility of getting convergence error in such cases. The question is not about the ability of either OpenSees or FEMA356. You can still solve the problem in OpenSees (It is versatile in my perspective!) by suitably identifying proper analysis parameters such as load step, tolerance limit, or algorithm etc. All You can do is to understand the error and debug the code step-by-step by changing the above-mentioned parameters.
I assume that the hysteretic loop that you mentioned means the backbone curve for the pushover curve. A hysteretic loop is required only during the cyclic analysis. The backbone curve in your case is multilinear, so there is a possibility of getting convergence error in such cases. The question is not about the ability of either OpenSees or FEMA356. You can still solve the problem in OpenSees (It is versatile in my perspective!) by suitably identifying proper analysis parameters such as load step, tolerance limit, or algorithm etc. All You can do is to understand the error and debug the code step-by-step by changing the above-mentioned parameters.
Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Thanks kesavapraba and Prafullamalla
I already tried to find proper analysis parameters
I combined the following command
Constraint : plain / transformation / penalty (1e16)
System : bandgeneral / umfpack
Algorithm : newton / krylovnewton / modifiednewton
So, penalty / umfpack / kryovnewton was the best combination for my model
Is there another analysis command for using pushover analysis?
I used uniaxialMatertial Hysteretic and points of the command are calculated by using fema 356 (chapter.6, table 6-7~ table 6-8)
As you know, the shape is below
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(x axis : deformation(rad) / y axis : moment(kn.m) )
And hysteretic loop of retrofitted model is below
................ (part of strenth increase)
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They have strength increase after yield strength ( the stiffness is 1% of initial stiffness)
So, I anticipated a retrofitted model analysis would be better than not retrofit model analysis.
Because Stiffness degradation of non-retrofitted model occurs more rapidly than retrofitted model, I thought it would be easy to converge.
I don't know what to do .. I did all I could to do
I already tried to find proper analysis parameters
I combined the following command
Constraint : plain / transformation / penalty (1e16)
System : bandgeneral / umfpack
Algorithm : newton / krylovnewton / modifiednewton
So, penalty / umfpack / kryovnewton was the best combination for my model
Is there another analysis command for using pushover analysis?
I used uniaxialMatertial Hysteretic and points of the command are calculated by using fema 356 (chapter.6, table 6-7~ table 6-8)
As you know, the shape is below
.
. .
. .
. ......
. |
(x axis : deformation(rad) / y axis : moment(kn.m) )
And hysteretic loop of retrofitted model is below
................ (part of strenth increase)
.
.
.
.
.
They have strength increase after yield strength ( the stiffness is 1% of initial stiffness)
So, I anticipated a retrofitted model analysis would be better than not retrofit model analysis.
Because Stiffness degradation of non-retrofitted model occurs more rapidly than retrofitted model, I thought it would be easy to converge.
I don't know what to do .. I did all I could to do
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Dear Friend
What uniaxialmaterial model did you use for retrofitted structure? It seems from your post that the retrofit model behaves something like elasto-plastic with strain hardening type. So, you may avoid convergence problem if you model that behaviour as Steel02 uniaxialMaterial as per OpenSees. Try it if you have not done already.
What uniaxialmaterial model did you use for retrofitted structure? It seems from your post that the retrofit model behaves something like elasto-plastic with strain hardening type. So, you may avoid convergence problem if you model that behaviour as Steel02 uniaxialMaterial as per OpenSees. Try it if you have not done already.
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Is it possible to share your code?
Prafulla Malla, Nepal
Praf_malla@hotmail.com
Praf_malla@hotmail.com
Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
dear Prafullamalla
could you give me your email address??
could you give me your email address??
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Re: lumped plasticity model & pushover
Prafulla Malla, Nepal
Praf_malla@hotmail.com
Praf_malla@hotmail.com